So I’m your worldview women are inherently in need of protection from men, who are inherently predators? Yeah, maybe go read some feminist texts before making broad generalizations like that… Another strawman… Are we talking about all men? When did I say all men were predators ? We are talking about a 50 year old man who’s been married several times and has defended the abuse allegations of his good friend Marilyn Manson? Yes, I would apply considerations of wealth imbalance far before applying considerations of gender imbalances, as wealth imbalances tend to create much more oppressive conditions. And you aren’t doing it in this case because…? Also, how often do you see a relationship between an old man and a teenager where there wasn’t a wealth imbalance…it’s almost like that’s inherent to the problem. Now whose strawmanning? Should every relationship need to conform to your notions of “normal”? Still you. How is being able to relate to someone not topical to relationships? Why couldn’t anyone use that same rationale to broadly criticize mixed culture relationships, queer relationships, or any other form of relationship? Lol, it’s telling that you are equating all of these to a 50 year old millionaire marrying a 19 year old. True ally. What exactly is the through line between mixed culture, queer relationships, and “any form of relationship”? And what prevents them from relating to each other? Oh, I’m queer and so is my partner…we obviously don’t have anything to talk about. What are you talking about? The dude is from an entirely different generation. The fixation on the 50 year old millionaire and not the specifics of their relationship erases the woman. That’s not a specific of the relationship? What’s the millionaire’s partner’s name? Who is she as a person? Has she spoke about abuse, coersion, or grooming? The whole point is that the power dynamic is obvious and can be abused to control the relationship. Including talking to people about the relationship. Do old men always groom young women? Are young men impervious to grooming, coersion, and abuse from old women? Is there not an established enough history of that happening coming from rich, powerful, and famous men? Did I say anything about rich powerful and famous women not being able to do the same? Do you think that narratives that place women as innocents who need to be protected are useful in pushing forward feminist golas of sex/gender equality? How? That is the narrative you are attempting to represent this as. Women are systemically disadvanged on both a legal and economic scale that makes it easier for wealthy and powerful men to treat them as sexual objects. Attempting to ignore the systemic history of misogyny and then declare that if you don’t think women are capable of being invulnerable to these forces is misogynistic. Feminism not just about equality, it’s about equity and recognition that the patriarchy is maintained to isolate women from the equity that would free them of another avenue of control. think that empowering women to understand they are individuals who can make choices for themselves and who can hold otherwise in positions of power to account is a much better approach. How exactly is the 19 year going to hold their powerful partner to account if they are abused? Choosing to be controlled by a much more powerful man is your version of feminism?